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cyberharassment. the fbi tried to determine if the e-mails with petraeus' account to broadwell had-exchanged through regular e-mail exchanges or had been hawked. fbi agents believe there were no criminal charge to be brought or security implications to the case. this despite that broadwell had some classified information and seemed to be releasing information on the benghazi attack. >> i don't know if a lot of you had heard this, but the c.i.a. had taken a couple of libyan militia members prisoner and they think the attack on the on the the consulate was to get these prisoners back. >> peter king who heads the homeland security committee told nbc he had doubts that the probe ever should have happened. >> i don't know how this rises to the level of an fbi investigation. >> and senator dianne feinstein told nbc she wanted to know why the intelligence committee that she chairs weren't alerted about the ongoing investigations while some were. >> an fbi agent took it upon him to go to members of the house and tell them, and this was outside of the general line of the information. that's
to aides to congressman eric cantor who tell us he found out from an fbi employee concerned that national security might have been breached as a result of the affair. cantor was told on october 27th. president obama didn't find out about the affair until after election day. congressional leaders from both parties are upset that neither they nor the president were informed until late last week. >> obviously this was a matter involving a potential compromise of security. and the president should have been told about it at the earliest date. >> reporter: a u.s. official said there was no breach of security as a result of the affair. a cantor aide says the congressman called the fbi's leadership to report the information he got on october 31st. but according to "the wall street journal," the fbi's probe had already been under way for months. "the journal" says the fbi's investigation began in may when it started looking into e-mails described as threatening sent to a woman cnn has identified as jill kelley, a family friend of petraeus'. the fbi traced the e-mails back to paula broadwell, petr
that is dominating washington. the latest on the fbi investigation that led to the sudden resignation of cia director david petraeus on friday. lawmakers are now calling for an inquiry as new details emerge about the entire time line. officials say the investigation began after jill kelley, a 37-year-old volunteer at mcdill air force base in tampa, complained of receiving harassing e-mails. kelley and her husband met petraeus and his wife when he headed the tampa bay central command from 2008 to 2010. now the fbi traced those e-mails to paula broadwell, co-author of the tpetraeus biography that le them to other 0 e-mail that is did indicate a romantic relationship between broadwell and petraeus. this morning "the new york times" report says they were notified of petraeus' affair in the late summer. in the senior law enforcement official said they interviewed petraeus in late october and concluded there was no criminal violation. and on november 6, election day, the fbi informed the director of national intelligence, jim clapper. clapper then told the white house on wednesday. the national security te
what's going on right now with the fbi and the cia. >> soup/sandwich? >> that's a good one. >> go rodeo. >> bye-bye. >> my favorite perhaps. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." but now -- >> "the rundown" with chuck todd. >> chuckles. >>> well, even more surprises this morning in the events that led to the resignation of cia director david petraeus. the fbi finds that marine general john allen, who was set to take over nato soon, exchanged thousands of pages of e-mails with the woman who says she was harassed by petraeus' mistre mistress. this is for real, folks. this is not a soap opera and we're just getting started. >>> back on capitol hill, questions keep growing about who knew what and when on the petraeus situation that now involved the cia, the fbi the pentagon, the white house, and congress. so much for nothing to distract from avoiding the fiscal cliff. >>> and recommend how president obama and mitt romney yukd yucked it up? the president had the last laugh. find out how he did it in today's deep dive. it's not how you think. good morning from washington. it's tuesday, n
we're joined by senate finance committee chair, diane finestein, as new details about the fbi's investigation and key players emerge. >> we received no advanced notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the way i found out, i came back to washington thursday night. friday morning, the staff director told me there were a number of calls from press about this. i called david petraeus. >> some of petraeus' former military aides tell nbc news, they were uncomfortable with biographer paula broadwell's access to the general. >> i thought this was a little bit strange, that he would take someone who's never written a book and allow them such unfettered access and allow them to write what is really the first biography. >>> cliff talks. president obama reaches out to business and labor to rally support for his plan to raise taxes on the rich. are republicans and democrats any closer to making a deal? >> we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think that the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is, how d
stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigatoinvestigators, a the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' form former mistress. >>> the first big battle in the republican civil war will be over taxes and some republicans are quickly finding their way to agreement with the president. yes, to raise taxes on the rich. that's going to be next. >>> and, later, the fbi has just conducted a search at the home of paula broadwell, the woman david petraeus has admitted having an affair with. a lot of new developments in the case. stay with us. zeebox would be a double chocolate chip cookie. when they unite...magic. cookie! [ male announcer ] and anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't deserve the extra chocolate chips. download zeebox free, and make magic when you watch tv. "are you a cool mom?" i'm gonna find out. [ female announcer ] swiffer wetjet's pads are better than ever. now they have the scru
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of events. on november 2nd, the fbi concluded after the final interview given by paula broadwell that there was no basis for criminal charges. officials tell nbc news that national intelligence director james clapper was told about the investigation the following week, on election day. clapper informed the white house the next day. officials say it was not until thursday, november 8th, however, that president obama was first notified and met with petraeus, who then offered to resign. the president accepted that resignation on friday, the same day that leaders of the house and senate committees first learned of the affair. diane finestein joins me now. congressman, why did you and your colleague on the house side not know about this for all of these months? >> because a decision was made somewhere not to brief us, which is atypical. generally, what we call the four corners, the chair and rankings of both committees are briefed on operationally sensitive matters. this is certainly an operationally sensitive matter. but we weren't briefed. i don't know who made that decision. and i
. there are new details, and new questions this morning, about an fbi investigation that led to his departure. the fbi uncovered evidence of an affair between petraeus and his biographer paula broadwell, after she allegedly sent harassing e-mails to another woman she jealously thought was too close to petraeus. new york congressman peter king says there are far more questions than answers. >> this seems to have been going on for several months. yet now it appears that they're saying that the fbi didn't realize until election day that general petraeus was involved. it just doesn't add up. and you've got this type of investigation, the fbi investigating e-mails, the e-mails leading to the cia director, and it's taking four months to find out that the cia director was involved. >> cnn's barbara starr is following this developing story, she's live at the pentagon for us. good morning. tell us, what is the status of the investigation right now? >> well, good morning, alina. "the new york times" is now reporting this morning that the investigation actually began some months ago. but, again, the que
-mails that he exchanged with the tampa temptress, jill kelly. she started the fbi investigation of petraeus in the first place. why are the military generals acting so much like politicians? well, we'll talk about that and all kinds of other issues but first, we get the latest. today's current news update, lisa ferguson's got it out in los angeles. good morning. >> hey bill, good morning everyone. as bill mentioned this petraeus story seems to be getting more complex by the minute. we'll give you more information here because we are continuing to learn more about this whole scandal involving now former c.i.a. director david petraeus and his extramarital affair with the author of his biography paula broadwell. another american is now getting caught up in the whole thing and that is the top commander in afghanistan, general john allen. turns out the pentagon is now investigating him as well for sending inappropriate e-mails to jill kelly. now, if you remember from yesterday, kelly is the same woman who sparked this whol
, this is the latest coming out of the fbi. you probably have seen this. and says here, the fbi withheld findings about petraeus' affair from the white house and congressional leaders because the agency considered them the result of the criminal investigation that never reached the threshold of an intelligence probe. that's what they are saying. that's what the justice is saying, justice department. do you buy that? >> absolutely not. absolutely ridiculous. put congress aside for one moment. the president of the united states is entitled to know a key member of his foreign policy team, head of the cia, general petraeus is more of a player than any other cia director i'm aware of. he was sent around the world negotiating agreement was countries because of his vast military experience. thought you have a key player be under a cloud, ethical cloud, possibly subject to blackmail and intimidation. the -- attorney general and the fbi director certainly attorney general had the absolute obligation to tell that to the president and let him decide what he wanted to do. to me, that's -- this is not -- just a mat
there is new information in that widening scandal about the fbi probe and the two women in the center of it all, tampa socialite jill kelley and paula broadwell. some ask why did the fbi wait to notify them about the investigation and why the director of national intelligence was not informed until election night. given that the investigation had been under way for months. now the white house was squiz quizzed yesterday on whether the president is satisfied with that time line. first at a news conference in australia where secretaries panetta and clinton are holding bilateral meetings, they should hold opinion until the facts are known about general allen, the latest -- >> no one should leap to any conclusions. no one should leap to any conclusions here. general allen is doing an excellent job. he certainly has my continued confidence to lead our forces and to continue the fight. but his nomination has been put on hold. as a prudent measure until we determine what the facts are. >> and though he praised allen, panetta said he felt it was important to refer the matter to the pentagon's inpeck to
. the fbi says no. >> fine. the big thing for me is i would rather this not impede any of the discussion on actual issues so if getting him out of there meant that the president didn't have to answer lots and lots of questions about what he knew and why is he still there that's fine. you know why i feel bad about it nobody is talking about petraeus' wife. she suffered in silence and either knew or is now incredibly humiliated by the whole thing. >> bill: an outstanding lady. she works for -- >> financial -- the financial consumer protection bureau. >> bill: yeah, right. >> you know, fine. let's get on where -- there are other people who can do petraeus's job and let's just move on to the fiscal cliff, for example. let's stop the country from going into a recession. >> bill: i won't debate it with everybody. that's what people are talking about today. >> fox is probably leading with that instead of the fiscal cliff. >> bill: they did. >> of course they did. >> bill: i also want to point out that peopl
demand answers about the timing of this fbi investigation. >>> compromise on capitol hill? some republicans are saying it is time to make a deal to keep the government away from the fiscal cliff. >>> a new report says a pilot shortage could cripple the airline industry. captain sully sullenberger says he's not buying it. >>> we begin this morning with a look at today's eye opener. your world in 90 seconds. >> this is something that could have had an affect on national security. i think we should have been told. >> lawmakers demand answers as the petraeus scandal widens. >> the fbi discovered the affair between petraeus and his biographer, paula broadwell, while investigating harassing e-mails broadwell sent to another woman. >> the private g-mail account that apparently paula broadwell had access to i think raises real security questions. >> if general petraeus was gearing up to testify concerning the deadly attacks on our u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya. >> i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi if petraeus doesn't testify. >>> members of cong
, the possibility of the fiscal cliff? let's start with the sex. [laughter] cia director resigns after the fbi uncovers e-mails showing that general david petraeus had an extramarital affair with his biographer, paula broadwell, a married mother of two. talk about unlimited access. the general was up on capitol hill talking about the benghazi hearings as we were recording this program, so we don't know what he said yet. >> we are safer because of the work that gave petraeus has main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. >> extraordinary career. david petraeus is a highly decorated four-star army general with a ph.d. from princeton university. roger, you have been around for awhile. how does a smart guy like that get into a mess like this? >> i think you said it, let's get to the sex. he is america's spymaster, aside from all the other degrees and all that. he is running the cia. but he decides to conduct an affair through a gmail account, because, gosh, nobody can get access to
to know why the fbi didn't notify them and the white house until just recently when it began months ago. that investigation far from over. fbi searching the home of petraeus's alleged mistress, paula broadwell. after david petraeus resigned his post as america's top spy. the scandal is widening. the woman in yellow, jill kelly, alerting a friend of hers that works in the fbi to threatening e-mails she says she was getting turning out to come from broadwell, part of an investigation involving another high-profile member of the military. the top u.s. commander in afghanistan, john allen. the defense secretary leon panetta says the pentagon has launched an internal investigation into thousands of quote, inappropriate communications between general allen right there on the screen and that woman in yellow, kelly. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live in washington. you almost need like one of those boards to put all the pictures up, catherine. >> reporter: you do rick. beyond the issue of failing to notify congress about the fbi investigation the democratic chair of the se
came out after the fbi started investigating paula broadwell for allegedly sending emails to another woman jill kellily a friend of david petraeus family. curing the fbi investigation, agents uncovered thousands of pages of emails between jill kelley and general john allen. he is the man who took over for general petraeus as the top commander in afghanistan. and he has denied that he and jill kelley are having an affair. it's a tangled web no doubt. the president had more to say about the whole thing during his news conference today. ed henry is there and is with us tonight on fox top story. she is a family friend, ed, the president didn't completely rule out the idea that somebody may have leaked some classified information. >> that's right. good evening, shep. the bottom line is the president didn't want to touch any of the salacious details of this for obvious reasons. he didn't want to kick general petraeus while he is down. he made very clear that he thinks general petraeus has had a long career of very exemplary service and noted that how it is ending is obviously not the way a
.i.a. director david petraeus. the fbi and c.i.a. say they will brief members of the house and senate intelligence committees laying out how they handled the case and standing by their claim that politics were not involved in their decision to keep lawmakers in the dark. at least four people are now caught up in the investigation. along with petraeus and paula broadwell, there is jill kelley and top afghanistan commander john allen. the pentagon is now investigating general allen for allegedly sending thousands of inappropriate e-mails to kelley but allen is saying he did nothing wrong and the president and the army are standing by him. >> the president thinks very highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. >> i believe john allen until somebody proves otherwise i believe that he did nothing inappropriate. >> that was white house spokesman jay carney and former army vice chief of staff peter tee ellie. jill kelley also received threatening letters from paula
. >> let me ask you about those additional complications. it turns out the fbi found out about this because paula brock well the mistress was sending threatening e-mails to another woman whom she regarded as a threat to her relationship with petraeus. what do you know about that relationship between the other woman and petraeus? >> well, there is an fbi investigation. that is continuing. i read both the post and the times this morning and it is pretty well laid out, i think. it i hate to discuss it except to say there are a nom of things that one has to consider. the first of which was there any kind of national security breech. to date there was not. and the fbi had briefed me now. i actually wish we had been briefed a little earlier. one of the things i have tried to do is get both sides together. the chairman and share material and worked together. that is a very important concept with neither of us knowing all of this comes as a big shock, and we are very muchable to keep things in a classified setting at least if you know you can begin to think and then to plan and of course we have no
allen who replaced petreaus as the top american commander in afghanistan and last night the fbi searched the north carolina home of paula broadwell with whom petreaus had an affair. tara mergener has the latest. >> reporter: ordering a pentagon investigation of one of the nation's highest profile u.s. military officials. general john allen, the man who succeeded david petreaus as head of the international forces in afghanistan is linked to the investigation involving his predecessor. secretary of defense leon panetta says the fbi has turned the case over to department of defense investigators. the senior u.s. defense official says the inquiry centers around potentially inappropriate e-mails with jill kelley, the florida woman who sparked an investigation that led to petreaus' resignation as head of the cia. >> if you know my sister like i said, she is a dedicated mother and wife. >> reporter: kelley went to the fbi when she received threatening e-mails from an anonymous source. those were allegedly linked to paula broadwell. broadwell was having an affair with petreaus and reportedly bel
openly question whether the c.i.a. director knew he was the suggest of an f.b.i. investigation when he briefed capitol hill. >> on september 14, lawmakers say petraeus seemed wedded to the administration's explanation. >> it's impossible to believe that he thought he was giving us honest assessment. >> leading critic of the obama administration to benghazi tetchered expectation. >> the power in power never likes a select committee but i am hope that the american people will demand it. and i am guardedly optimistic that they will achieve that goal. >> as he walked away from a mid-day news conference senate majority leader harry reid told reporters he would in out support the idea that chair and ranking members of the senate homeland security committee who have their own investigation said the proposal was premature. >> i do not see the benefit nor the need for a select committee. >> in closed briefings today, fox news told the f.b.i. deputy director and his boss robert mueller face hard questions about the f.b.i. petraeus investigation. the acting director of the c.i.a. fielding questio
, because it now turns out the way the f.b.i. found out about that is because paula broadwell, the mistress, was sending threatening e-mails to another woman, whom she regarded as a threat to her relationship with petraeus. what do you know about that relationship between the other woman and petraeus? >> well, there is an f.b.i. investigation. that is continuing. i read "the post" and "the times" this morning and it's pretty well laid out, i think. i just hate to discuss it except to say there are a number of things that one has to consider, the first of which was there any kind of national security breach? to date, there was not. and the f.b.i. briefed me now. i actually wish we had been briefed a little bit earlier. so that the full intelligence committee, one of the things that i tried to do, chris, is bring both sides together. so my vice chairman chambliss and i share material and work together. that is a very important concept. with neither of us knowing ahead of time, all of this comes as a big shock. and we are very much able to keep things in a classified setting. at least if you k
of u.s. and nato forces in afghanistan, general john allen, has also been investigated by the fbi after having exchange, according to a senior defense official, possibly thousands of potentially inappropriate e-mails with jill kelley, the 37-year-old social liaison at the heart of the scandal that led to general petraeus' resignation. house homeland security committee chair peter king had another term to describe the unfolding drama. >> it's really a great tragedy. general petraeus, one of our most distinguished generals and general allen, considered a super star in the military, did an outstanding job in afghanistan, was going to go to nato, it's just tragic. you're right, this has the elements in so ways of a hollywood movie or trashy novel. >> a brief primer on the characters until so-called trashy novel. allen who is married became ensnared in the investigation because of his e-mail correspondent spns with kelley who in may started receiving a series of what she considered to be harassing e-mails from petraeus biographer and fellow west point grad paula broadwell. the ensuing invest
david petraeus. the fbi is investigating whether the general's mistress, paula broadwell, may have revealed classified information, information she only had because of her relationship with the general. that is the question they're asking. good morning, everybody. i'm martha maccallum in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer. that information may contradict information that general petraeus gave to congress just days later. martha: doug luzader joins us live with this report from washington. good morning, doug. >> reporter: good morning, guys. at a very basic level this is the store of an affair between general david petraeus and his biographer paula broad well. it gets complicated. there may be national security implication including into the broad investigation into the consulate in benghazi on september 11th. there is no question she would have had prime access to one. key players. she made a couple of public appearances to talk about that. that was at the university of denver, her alma mater last month where she spoke about the benghazi attack. this was
follow the facts. we do not share outside the justice department, outside the fbi the facts of ongoing investigations. we made the determination as we were going through the matter that there was not a threat to national security. >> let's jump right in and bring in our friday morning political power panel. we have jackie kucinich political reporter for "usa today", democratic strategist blake zeb and msnbc contributor robert trainum. great to have you all here. we just heard from congressman king earlier today saying the general was asked right off the top whether the affair had an impact on his testimony. he said no. they moved on. but are all indications then that the affair is now a side note and lawmakers are truly focused on what took place in benghazi and the intelligence they have now? >> this very minute, yeah. i think that's the case. will that remain the focus? i don't know. because there's a lot of questions still out there about petraeus and his relationship with his biographer as well as joe kelly in tampa. and general allen. i mean, there are a lot of moving parts here.
and departments that have their hands in the libya affair, cia, dod, state, white house, fbi, i think it's clear that the cia's jurisdiction in a lot of what happened was probably minimal. that makes petraeus's downfall all the more sad, because i think of everyone the cia and david petraeus probably had the cleanest hands in all of this. we have to see. we obviously have plenty more questions going forward. >> to your point, s.e., it shows his resignation was over the extra-marital affair. >> yeah. >> i want to take a step back here on this whole issue. i mean, i think -- let me start by saying that i think the questions about the security at the consulate in benghazi are legitimate questions that deserve investigation. the thing that republicans have really glomed onto is what susan rice said on face the nation. i want to play her comments so we can put that in context. >> i understand you have been saying that you think it was sfont n spontaneous. are we not on the same page here? >> let me tell you what we understand to the assessment at present. first of all, as you discussed with the presi
uncovered by an fbi investigation into a series of e-mails sent by his biographer, paula broadwell, who was accused of sending harassing e-mails to another woman. that sparks an investigation that revealed her secret relationship with petraeus. but after looking at a recent speech she gave on the death of four americans in libya, people started wondering whether she and petraeus had shared any classified intel and whether she inadvertently spilled some of those secrets during her remarks. bill gross joins us live, what's your impression of this situation as it's playing out? >> well, it's certainly a very interesting situation, as you say. there's a joke going around on twitter that the french intelligence director resigned because he doesn't have an affair for six months. so the idea that an extramarital affair in itself would bring down the cia director is very isn't in my mind. there has to be more to the story. my guess is it has to do with internal cia politics. the agency's known to be using intelligence information to settle scores, or it could be related to the benghazi scandal.
. the pentagon says the fbi has uncovered thousands of potentially inappropriate emails between allen and jill kelley, the woman who complained of harassment from petraeus' lover, paula broadwell. her complaint to the fbi led to the discovery of broadwell and petraeus' relationship, prompting petraeus' resignation on friday. allen succeeded petraeus in afghanistan last year. the pentagon says allen will remain the u.s. commander in afghanistan for now, but that plans to nominate him to become nato's supreme allied commander are on hold pending the outcome of the investigation. responding to the revelations, white house spokesperson jay carney reaffirmed on tuesday president obama's faith in general allen. >> i can tell you the president thinks very highly of general allen and his service to his country, as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. at the request of the secretary of defense, the president has put on hold general allen's nomination as supreme allied commander in europe pending the investigation of his conduct by the department of defense. >> to talk more about the significance
, the acting cia director. we also have a top deputy from the fbi. an undersecretary from the state department in addition to the head of the national counterterrorism center. this is the nation's hub for threat assessments in this country. what is most eagerly anticipated is the testimony of former cia director david petraeus. what we expect now that will happen on friday, martha. martha: fast nating to see how each of those sides, and david petraeus present what was going on and what their agencies were doing. then there is this big question, catherine, which john mccain is pushing for, a special investigation, a panel, a select committee to be put in place. is there any chance of that? >> reporter: well there seems to be some immediate pushback. to lay it out for folks. we have three senior senate republicans who believe the fallout from benghazi is so significant it is on par with some of the major scandals of american history. >> watergate investigation benefited from a joint select committee. iran-contra benefited from a select committee. i think finding the truth about benghazi is only
secretary leon panetta disclosed a dramatic turn in the petraeus case. fbi investigators had uncovered what the pentagon called potentially inappropriate communications between the general and jill kelley whom he and his wife got to know in tampa and were revealing between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of documents including e-mails over two years. officials say some were flirtatious, but the general strongly denies an improper relationship. the fbi discovered the e-mails during its investigation of kelley's e-mails, sparked by her complaints about anonymous threats which turned out to be from paula broadwell. they say they found no wrongdoing by general allen but turned the files over to the pentagon which monday ordered its inspector general to investigate. a social link between the two four-star generals, jill kelley who enjoyed socializing with the powerful in tampa while doing volunteer work for military families. she also gave people the impression she had some kind of state department status which officials say she does not. in fact, last weekend, she called police complaining about media
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